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Callidus Dux
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Posted - 2012.05.24 05:06:00 -
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How sassy is that now? New thread? Do you have not enough feedback from the three others? READ THEM!
But lets start here again: Burn the whole concept of this UNIFIED UI! I do not wish to have my drone bay in the same window with my station hangar or my ship hangar or my containers or something else!!! Why this sh!t? It is impossible to have the overview of a list, sorted according meta level in my container, but have the normal list, sorted according items in my hangar. Why? ONE WINDOW FOR ONE FUNCTION!If its result in hundreds of different windows.. MAKE IT! I WANT IT SO!
- I demand several hundreds of independent but, for each window, adjustable in position, width, height etc. pp. IF I WISH! WITHOUT ANY SHIF or CONTROL or something mysterious key combo/ shortcut! I hate the idea that my ship hangar is in the same window with all others.
- I demand my ship hangar icon at the neocom back!
To make it short: I want to be able to adjust ALL of my SEVERAL windows(!!!!) like it was before this guy arrow hits with his sh!t the servers at 22.05. I will never ever see this new UI mess again!
Bring a devblog with the DETAILED time frame when you will have ALL corrected aigain. YOU have the code for my beloved UI. Do not write another one. Use the existing! Make the new UI optional and use the existing UI as STANDARD! AGAIN: ONE WINDOW FOR EACH FUNKTION!
I DEMAND THE WOHLE NEW UI SH!T TO BE OPTIONAL OR TO BE BURNED OUT OF THE GAME! HOW OFTEN MUST I WRITE THIS AGAIN?
I DEMAND A DEV BLOG FROM THE RESPONSIBLE ARROW AND OPTIMAL WITH A APOLOGY AND AN EXPLAINATION WHY THEY IGNORED THEIR PLAYER BASE. I MEAN THE TESTERS WHO STATED; THAT THIS UI IS SH!T. THEY DO THE WORK; MAKE VIDEOS AND SCREENSHOTS; WRITE BUG REPORTS BUT THIS IGNORANT ARROW SAY: I do not believe you! How is such a person acceptable for CCP?
Degrade this guy out of a CCP rank! He should never ever come in contact with the customer again! The requested devblog from him should be the last thing that the whole community will ever hear from him. Such dumb statements like this from Arrow will lead to the result, that barely one will ever test your new shiny things at SISI again. Why testing, because CCP dont trust me and my screenshots? |
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Posted - 2012.05.24 05:44:00 -
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CCP Soundwave wrote:Cyriacus Antonius wrote:Will there ever be a way to revert to the old inventory system? I'm not sold on the new one at all, regardless of changes. No, probably not. I will however go fairly far in implementing feedback that improves this piece of UI though. Feedback continues to be welcome.
NO??? Is it the same "No" as it was with the "Ship Spinning"? You should just bring back the old UI or at least change the existing new UI so, that I am able to readjust my SEVERAL WINDOWS 100% (!!) according the pre patch state from 22.05.
AGAIN: ONE WINDOW FOR ONE FUNCTION! Not one crap for all! |
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Posted - 2012.05.24 06:31:00 -
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Rammix wrote:Pirmasis Sparagas wrote: Do they have Unified window? NO! Imagine using Windows OS only with one window... Insane...
For operating files - Total Commander on Windows, Dolphin on Linux. Just for example.
Yeah! As it is. Barely one like or use this programmes. SO it is with this UI. Barely one likes it but here you are forced to use this sh!t. But not for long I am afraid. Perhaps it is time for a long break and do something other than play EVE.
CCP I hate you for your ignorance AND incompetence! |
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Posted - 2012.05.24 06:46:00 -
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Uineha wrote:Rammix wrote:Need folders to group inventory filters. Don't know about other people, but I have 17 filters already and will add 7-8 or even more. Placing part of them in folders would be nice. Also, read this post please: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1339120#post1339120tl;dr: Folders for filters Fitting based and character's skills based filters Connections between fitting window and filters Exchanging filters between characters (like bookmarks)Ships should be sortable by race And now we need 17 filter. Before 0 to make the same job. Do you believe it's better now and before the new inventory ? CCP make some great job but sometime some feature are not good. I thnink it's the case with the new inventory ... Sad but true Uineha. But they had all the response from their player base. And they brought online this crap. Now they have to deal with it. If they never ask, the have to work on it, TILL EVERY ONE is happy. NO ONE grumped about the old UI. Doubleclick and windows were fine. But this worthless Arrow thought it would be nice to have all sh!t together in one window, although the whole community had given the feedback to this dumb idea! |
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Posted - 2012.05.24 07:35:00 -
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CCP Soundwave wrote:Smohq Anmirorz wrote:Thank you for addressing these issues quickly. I am unsure what happened to the optional nature of this UI change that we were promised (I'd link where that was told to us but it's currently impossible to find with search terms like 'optional'), and I have looked everywhere for the button to turn it off and don't see it. Good to see you're fixing it, that issue was going to cause a lot of people to quit. It currently makes the game much harder to play for many activities. If I didn't think you were going to address it, I would leave. I don't want to leave. I want the issues to be fixed.
Still looking for that option to turn it off...or the post that said that it would be optional. He was all excited about it, too, I'm going to keep looking for that post. Maintaining two systems really isn't an option and I've never seen this promised anywhere. As I mentioned, we'll continue making changes and making fixes (like the looting reverting to the main hangar) though, so if you're missing any specific piece of functionality we'll definitely look at the viability of implementing it.
WHAT? You will not do, what all players want? Listen Soundwave.. The players HATE HATE HATE Arrows Crap-UI. I want the 100% funcionality from the old one back. If you are not able to maintain two seperate systems then integrate the old one INTO the new. I want to be able to rupture the whole UI from Arrow. I want to drag ALL Windows from this one crapsh!t into several hundreds of its own, adjustable in size and position, windows. I DEMAND HUNDREDS OF INDEPENDENT WINDOWS IF I WISH!!!!!!! And they have to pop up when iI double click. And not when I SHIFT cklick! Why must i look and search 5 minutes if I want to drag missiles from my station hangar into my ship hangar? ANd NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!! SHIFT and click a not a solution it is a dumb idea. Doubleclick is a solution and icons in my neocom. But never ever a mysteroius hidden shortcut!
Just now you have brought thinks together which doesnt fit togehter. Why must I see or browse trough my dronebay If I want to open my station or ship hangar? THAT IS WRONG!! Remove this crap. All windows in the former UI had their OWN function. And that was exact what all players made happy. Now this Arrow has created a bulk of sh!t of clicks. |
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Posted - 2012.05.24 09:45:00 -
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Endeavour Starfleet wrote:Dex Tera wrote:CCP YOU GUYS SRSLY ****** UP THIS TIME......AGAIN I DONT EVEN KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN SO I WONT EVEN TRY will respond again latter with constructive critisisim and some good ideas on how to fix this piece of crap once im done being totally pissed off Dex Next time just calm yourself down and provide suggestions instead of whining like an idiot. The new system is here to stay so it is better to give good suggestions they can do instead of a useless opinion.
Read all posts again. The SOLUTION is: burn the current unified UI and bring back the old one. What other solution do you troll need? Updating, fixing or something else is in no way an exaptable solution! Shift and click is no solution.
Over and Out! |
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Posted - 2012.05.24 10:04:00 -
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CCP Soundwave wrote:Update: POS structure renaming got done yesterday and will be included in todays update.
We'll continue going through the list :) Sorry pal.. but I have no POS. What I have is a not useable UI. Hope you will bring a solution online very soon. Till you come with a good solution around the corner, I have to stay docked and only loggin in to change skills. But be sure that I will not renew my subscribtion for a game that I can not play due incompetent development. You are able to see my account details. More than 4 years continued subscribtion and payed in Euro. Alone for this account. I have a second account a little bit newer than this here. Do you really want to lose such customers? |
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Posted - 2012.05.24 10:19:00 -
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Who is that guy which massively deletes posts in this forum? Is this your idea of customer care? The customer says: "No we do not like it!" and you delete this opinion? Where are my postst some pages back?
It is really time to shoot things up in Jita again. |
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Posted - 2012.05.24 10:21:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:I went through the thread and deleted rants, off topic posts, personal bickering between posters,personal attacks, trolls and flames.
We are trying our best to gather feedback here so please post constructively and don't clutter the thread with posts that don't further the discussion. Feel free to be critical, but be polite and try to make your post count for something. Thank you! Than you have to clean up the post, Not delete posts with much likes! |
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Posted - 2012.05.24 10:33:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:I went through the thread and deleted rants, off topic posts, personal bickering between posters,personal attacks, trolls and flames.
We are trying our best to gather feedback here so please post constructively and don't clutter the thread with posts that don't further the discussion. Feel free to be critical, but be polite and try to make your post count for something. Thank you! Than you have to clean up the post, Not delete posts with much likes! I have made good points But you have deleted them? WTF CCP!
Integrate the old style into the new one. I want to be able tu rupture Arrows Crap UI into several hundreds of its own, adjustable in size and position, windows. Shift Cklick is not a Solution. I hate this **** UI now. I demand hundreds of OWN windows. ONE WINDOW FOR ONE FUNCTION.
And thanks Guard that you have deleted my last posts. Dont be surprised if I report your post as trolling! |
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Posted - 2012.05.24 10:52:00 -
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Integrate the old UI into the new one. I want to be able to rupture Arrows whole UI into hundreds of seperate, independent adjustable in size and position, windows. Shift cklick is not a solution. STOP fixing and adding new sh!t into the, by now, lost unified UI!
I want and demand hundreds of of own windows. ONE WINDOW FOR EACH FUNCTION! I do not want to browse trough my drone bay, every time I want to load thiungs from my station hangar into the ships hangar! I want my icon for the ships hangar in the neocom back. |
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Posted - 2012.05.24 18:56:00 -
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CCP Soundwave wrote:Mistah Ewedynao wrote:Well thanks for trying Soundwave. This will take some serious fixing, good luck.
I am trying to NOT jump on the unsubbing bandwagon.....I really am. Yeah sorry guys, we won't be able to do everything at once, but hopefully we can trickle some fixes out. We had some go out today, some will go out next Tuesday and hopefully we can continue until it's in a better state. Anyway, that's it for now. Can I have the subscribtion feeback till you have found the solution? Because it is not possible to play the game as I have learned 4 years ago! |
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Posted - 2012.05.24 19:17:00 -
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I had a look at you dev blog.
Shift-clicking works fine, but like with all shortcuts, you need to know it exists. WeGÇÖre going to allow inventories to be GÇ£dragged outGÇ¥ of the main UI. ItGÇÖs basically the same functionality as shift clicking, but instead of being hidden behind a hotkey, you can simply drag and drop it out with your mouse.
Does this mean that I am able to drag out EVERY entry out of this unified UI in order to have my hundreds of own adjustable windows back WITHOUT any shift+click crap? I want icons in my neocom to open my SHIP hangar to see all the available ships as icons again; I want a double click to open my cargo hold of my current active ship. I want seperate Windows for every station container-which opens per double click at the corresponding icon within the other seperate own window of my station hangar. Do you work on that so that I am able to ABSOLUTE rebuild the former state of my arrangement for all possible and available (own) windows? You have to understand that I, and many many others, would never accept the shift+click "cripple solution" and will never accept the tree view when we have to drag thing from 'A' to 'B'. We all want windows. Seperate windows, adjustable in size and position- responsing on doubleclicks or cklicks at icons. NO hotkeys or shortcuts! |
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Posted - 2012.05.24 19:52:00 -
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Rammix wrote:Talia Araceli wrote: Look around you. Open your eyes. The sky is blue and you are arguing its our opinion. Your posts **** me off man. I don't know what your mental problem is, but seek help, please.
You're speaking absurd, trying to connect unconnectible things and presenting it like an argument. Google about sociology a bit. You seem to have fallen into illusion that, if someone doesn't come to the forum to express his attitude to the updates, it means his opinion is automatically similar to yours. As I stated above, forums more oftenly visited by those who want to complain. Those who feel themselves comfortable usually are not interested to write anything here.
Than bring in your "friends" who love this crap UI! After that we can recount. As it is now. The current majority hates this UI. |
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Posted - 2012.05.25 05:16:00 -
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Sorry that I must repeat myself. But there was no answer to this question till now. @CCP Soundwave; CCP Arrow; CCP Optimal:
Callidus Dux wrote:I had a look at your dev blog.
Shift-clicking works fine, but like with all shortcuts, you need to know it exists. WeGÇÖre going to allow inventories to be GÇ£dragged outGÇ¥ of the main UI. ItGÇÖs basically the same functionality as shift clicking, but instead of being hidden behind a hotkey, you can simply drag and drop it out with your mouse.
Does this mean that I am able to drag out EVERY entry out of this unified UI in order to have my hundreds of own adjustable windows back WITHOUT any shift+click crap? I want icons in my neocom to open my SHIP hangar to see all the available ships as icons again; I want a double click to open my cargo hold of my current active ship. I want seperate Windows for every station container-which opens per double click at the corresponding icon within the other seperate own window of my station hangar. Do you work on that so that I am able to ABSOLUTE rebuild the former state of my arrangement for all possible and available (own) windows?
You have to understand that I, and many many others, would never accept the shift+click "cripple solution" and will never accept the tree view when we have to drag things from 'A' to 'B'. We all want windows. Seperate windows, adjustable in size and position- responsing on doubleclicks or cklicks at icons. NO hotkeys or shortcuts!
And as it is. Who is that a$$hole who has 100 windows open all the time? When I work I have just a few (2 till maximum 5) windows. The picture from Arrows blog to bring his crap to the customer is false and absolute far away from any reality!
AND PLEASE PLEASE WITH SUGAR ON TOP: Stop advertising your buddy / friend programm. In this state of development of INFERNO it just seems to be very inappropriate and ridiculous to show this mess a friend. Really.
I have to knwo this. Because my subscription depends on the right answer. CCP has to learn that they can not change fundamental things WITHOUT the community (again). If CCP hates the old inventory, they hate ALL of us old players including me and wants to get rid of them. And this would be a scandal! But what can we expect if the responsible designer for this new UI stated: "We do not believe your feedback from the test servers." |
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Posted - 2012.05.25 05:25:00 -
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Bauloe wrote:I am enjoying the new UI
The Shift Click opens an extra window. much like windows 7
in fact I learned that trick for window though eve..
NO! Why? I do not drag and drop things in my Windows 7. I copy and paste or use a right click. The current sh!t is absolute not compareable to an OS. By the way... why this shift+click thing? A normal doubleclick or an icon is more then enough. And your argument does not work. It is also possible to have MULTIPLE instances of the explorer and several windows running in order to drag and drop things around. You do not have to use the crap solution with this shift shortcut. There is an icon on the Desktop (in EVE it would be the Neocom) which you double click and a new window pops up. So easy!
Bauloe wrote: I am thinking this an improvement and the additional work to be done should make it sweet.
I am wondering if this is something some people are trying to blow things out of proportion to make another summer of rage.
The idea is wrong in the beginning. I want not all of the available windows into only one; bonded together via a cumbersome tree view or any mysterious shortcut! I am ready to meet in Jita! |
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Posted - 2012.05.25 06:40:00 -
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Yonis Kador wrote:
[...] I spent the better part of a day on the feature page reading about each thing and what new content was being added. I'm a fan of EVE. But this UI is so central to everything, it's impossible to enjoy anything else. It sucks. It's implementation sucks, its buggy, laggy, one-window design sucks, and the fact that its being forced on us despite hundreds upon hundreds of complaints sucks. I'm not unsubbing - yet- but if I "am" driven away, there will be others.
Bon soir. (again)
Yonis Kador
Hello Yonis. I fully understand you. I also do not play the game jet. I am more in the forums than online in EVE. I currently play "SkillQeue online" till this problem is solved or my subscribtion runs out. Concerning the lag of this new UI.. If you (and I mean CCP too) think about this issue.. it must be totally clear why there is a lag!
THIS new Ui has to load ALL possible and available windows; calculate the estimate price (why this crap? -.-) and show all this information at once within milliseconds; or in that case.. seconds. THIS Ui is never ever designed to be lag free. It is impossible because the design is wrong. And no one at CCP will ever get this UI lag free as long as I am not able to split this "all in one" information into several small blocks (and here I mean windows). If the UI has only to load my ship- and station hangar it would work a lot smoother. But showing the drone bay; station hangar, ship hangar, all available containers consider the current adjusted filter AND calculate the price of all modules.. THAT can not work. NEVER! |
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Posted - 2012.05.25 09:23:00 -
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May O'Neez wrote:It is a bit sad that people complain in loop about some issues that CCP stated the fix is already in the pipe ... (yes, I know, there's still issues not in the pipe, but they get drowned in the flood :/ )
The opt-out option is silly, because by principle people will NOT use the new system. So they have either to pull back or to fix the existing one, but I understand why they don't want the 2 aside. Moreover, old UI is 9 years old and code must be freaky old and clunky ...
Sorry, but than they have to rebuild the old UI with their new code. EXACTLY rebuild and bring in addition new features like their unified crap. It does not work if you try to abandon all known UI elements and bring absolute different, not wanted changes. The unified UI should be optional. NOT the existing old one! |
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Posted - 2012.05.25 09:35:00 -
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May O'Neez wrote:Callidus Dux wrote:they have to rebuild the old UI with their new code. EXACTLY rebuild and after that; bring in addition new features like their unified crap. QFT ! The key is the transition Hm. I was not on of these guys who forced CCP to bring out a new UI as soon as possible. They had all time in the world. But their plan was to relese it half finished, with a horrible feedback from the testers on SiSi. I where able to play EvE with the old style. But now I am not willed to learn this sh!t of a tree view, lag and mysterious hidden hokeys.
By the way. Shift + Click solves not my problem. |
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Posted - 2012.05.25 09:53:00 -
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Ribikoka wrote:Callidus Dux wrote:May O'Neez wrote:Callidus Dux wrote:they have to rebuild the old UI with their new code. EXACTLY rebuild and after that; bring in addition new features like their unified crap. QFT ! The key is the transition Hm. I was not on of these guys who forced CCP to bring out a new UI as soon as possible. They had all time in the world. But their plan was to relese it half finished, with a horrible feedback from the testers on SiSi. I where able to play EvE with the old style. But now I am not willed to learn this sh!t of a tree view, lag and mysterious hidden hokeys. By the way. Shift + Click solves not my problem. Hey Callidus, i have a question for you. If i need Shift + click for easy handling this nightmare new inventory what is totally same thing as if I would use the old system, why i need the new one ? If i need more windows for easy handling why i need the new treepanel ? Every post who want to saving this horrible new UI just told to us, too many windows was there with the old system, but now they needed the new windows with shift+click. This is normal ? Or just simple stupidity ? So i give a question again, why we need the new system when if the old function is necessary for the new one ? The new inventory is crap without more windows, but if the new one needs more windows that is the OLD inventory system.
EXACT! I do not want a unified UI. I want a windows based UI. |
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Posted - 2012.05.25 12:51:00 -
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Oh no! Is it possible that CCP gets dumber every day? Now there is another Thread from another CCP guy who asks "How should we improve the inventory UI?". Read the EXISTING Threads and do not split the whole community into different locations in the forum!
You have your feedback, You got your feedback from SiSi and the minority of the community hates your sh!t.
At least build a version so that I, and all others, are able to rebuild the old UI 100%; 1to1 again. NO one need all information in one window. WE demand hundreds of its own, adjustable in size and position, windows. We demand the exact copy of the old UI!
And please stop introduceing more threads HOW SHOULD WE FIX IT? You have your comments:
Here HERE HERE!!! HERE!!!!!!
They all say: bring back the old view. Nothing others. Just the old, hundreds of own windows, view! How many threads do you need more till you have found out, that your UI is absolute crapsh!t and that it is impossible to rescue this project?
BRING BACK THE EXACT COPY OF THE OLD UI!!! 100% and 1to1 as it was before 22.05.2012!!!!!!!!!!!!! With every further question and next thread you will bring more hate into the community! STOP IT! Just roll back!
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Posted - 2012.05.27 08:36:00 -
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CCP Soundwave wrote:Mentet wrote:Strange how CCP have gone very quiet.
It's the weekend, we won't be able to reply at the same pace as we can during the weekdays. In general though, I'll happily push changes to the inventory out every single week until we're happy. That's something I don't think we've ever done before, but if that's what it takes to make this good, then so be it.
Than you should start with the ability to drag every possible window out ouf the now existting unified UI. The majority of the gamers do not like the idea to have all these windows "unified" into one. Lets rupture the UI into several windows. WITHOUT any "shift+click" or "shift+shortcut".
To break down the main demand: Let us rebuild the old 'hundreds of windows' UI- 100% and 1 to 1 in its funktion to the previous version of the UI (before 22.05.2012) WITHOUT any shortcuts. EVERY settings of this UI MUST BE stored at CCP's server in order to prevent the need of doing this work/setup again on every further installation of EVE or other computer systems.
My personal claim is: Let CCP Arrow and CCP Optimal write a devblog where they have to explain themself. They must explain, why they have ingored the whole feedback from the SiSi testers. Why they have thrown established elements from the UI overboard and replaced it with such a horrible-non functional ... 'all I can say is' crap.
And please stop opening further threads "How should we improve the UI". At this point of development; we have more threads about the UI itself, than available windows in the unified UI.
You have your feedback, stop asking over and over again. Act according the feedback. Implement the old UI code into the new one or compile the old UI with the new code. How you will do this is irrelevant to me. But as it is.. I currently I log only in to check some market orders and have a look into the contracts. Sometimes I let my ship spin too. But bring back the old UI and let me enjoy this game again. You can be lucky that you have got my money for my two accounts recently. But be sure that I am ABSOLUT NOT WILLED to learn this new UI crap. Before this will happen.. I will show EVE my back and wait, till CCP has learnd its lesson (again).
More than 4 years continued subscription - but now your 'INFERNO' has extinguished my fire for EVE. |
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Posted - 2012.05.27 08:42:00 -
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Peter Drakon wrote:
@Players: reverting back is not going to happen, that can not be done in a way it would make any sense. I know it sounds so easy: "revert the code back!". It is not, and never has been easy; not on a codebase this size and complex. However they can change the inventroy, they can go forward, and shape it how you ask them to. That they have not changed it before release based on the sisi feedback was a huge mistake, but it can not be undone now. They have apologized for that, now they have to move forward. It is time for you too to do the same, either way.
But for sure! REbuild the old UI with the new CODE. This may take time but is possible. What once was present can be there again. Just compile the code! |
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Posted - 2012.05.27 10:28:00 -
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Peter Drakon wrote:Callidus Dux wrote: But for sure! REbuild the old UI with the new CODE. This may take time but is possible. What once was present can be there again. Just compile the code!
I said done in a sensible way, what you suggest may take many weeks, maybe one or two month to do so. In that time they can do many improvments to the new.
What I mean is: Rebuild the old inventory. Let us drag out EVERY available information into several, independent adjustable in size an position, windows. THAT; and only THAT would be an acceptable improvement. NOTHING other! First rebuild the old UI! After that you can improve more, but ALWAYS in mind not to change the UI so fundamental again. The first improvement MUST BE to rebuild ALL the functions of the old UI including hundreds of available windows. If YOU dont like this idea fine. You can work on with this current crap and wait till YOUR ideas of improvements will be implemented. But the old players, who loved the old UI should be the first people who gets their desires satisfied. I will never learn this sh!t, full of hidden mysterious shortcuts, lag and tree view. NEVER! |
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Posted - 2012.05.27 16:04:00 -
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Peter Drakon wrote:Callidus Dux wrote:...The first improvement MUST BE to rebuild ALL the functions of the old UI including hundreds of available windows. If YOU dont like this idea fine. ... At this stage I don't like the new feature either, it has serious bugs and design flaws. (I do like to have open 5-10 windows too.) But let us move forward, and let them improve this new thing. It may actualy work. No it will NOT work. have a look at all the threads in this forum. The main opinion about this UI is.
BURN IT IN A BIG INFERNO!
It will NEVER EVER work for me and perhaps for most of the people, posting in these forum. I demand hundreds of own adjustable windows. Before THIS is not done; CCP can work out the most beautiful functions, make nice graphics and so on. But I won't play the game! Thats all. I want my UI back to be able to play. I will NEVER learn this crapsh!it of UI. NEVER!
Drag this guy Arrow and Optimal here. No comment from the causer of this UI problem.
To CCP: Why is there not a public apology from Arrow and his team; because he ignored ALL SiSi feedback with reason: "We do not believe you!" ? Why is he able to work on as nothing happens? The forum is on fire but all responsible persons are hidden and send Soundwave as troubleshooter?
And be a little bit more concrete. A statement like:
CCP Soundwave wrote: In general though, I'll happily push changes to the inventory out every single week until we're happy. That's something I don't think we've ever done before, but if that's what it takes to make this good, then so be it.
is ridiculous. To write: until CCP is happy is wrong. Untill YOU (the customer) would be right.
Furthermore explain EXACT what you are willed to change back. Will it be possible again to drag ALL available windows out of this unified UI in order to have back my hundreds of windows; adjustable in size and position? Or are you just working on an solution for this lag and implement more useless filter; no one wants? I do not want your dumb filters. I have named containers but they are not proper reachable, because of your crap tree view and all in once window!
It is time to be more concrete CCP and answer some questions.
Peter Drakon wrote: They did made a huge error releasing this. They have apologiezed, and this is the priority now to fix. Thats all they can do.
They did a lot of huge errors with releasing a lot of crap since I am in the game. But they never learned. A simple apology is not enough if you have noticed many "Errors" during the last years. I will answer this with a statment from CCP Arrow.
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Andy DelGardo wrote: So can we pls stop whining and post constructive critic in here? Simply post what needs to-be changed so u can have a "similar" experience or working setup. Simply let them implement all those ideas, fixes and we all should be oki.
How is it possible that you and especially CCP does not understand that all improvements to this useless unified UI MUST be the 100% copy of the old UI itself? Roll it back is not really encrypted if you ask "What should we change?".
Even if a roll back is not an option. CCP has to write the code for the old UI; with their new coding system again. If they change thinks so fundamental; ignore the feedback and act so dumb that a roll back is not an option; THEN they have to REbuild the whole old UI with their new code. Just write another one which leads to the exact same behavior of the old UI!
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Penritha wrote:The eve newsletter which just landed in my inbox has a link to an Inferno satisfaction (LOL) survey.
I urge everybody to complete the survey and express your disgust at the travesty of programming that is the unified inventory.
Thank you very much for the information Penritha. In case that someone did NOT get these newsletter (like me):
Link to the Newsletter Link to the Survey I can't play EVE at present. Because of THIS: http://i50.tinypic.com/2ez1wz4.jpg |
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